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ORTHODOX  January 2002, Week 4

ORTHODOX January 2002, Week 4

Subject:

Re: OCA new age Church

From:

Peter Andreev <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Orthodox Christianity <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 27 Jan 2002 23:47:10 -0500

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My how quickly we change colors.

Are we planning a trip to Holy Trinity Monastery sometime in the future?


>From: Bishop Tikhon <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Orthodox Christianity <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: OCA new age Church
>Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:21:34 -0800
>
>---------------------- Information from the mail header
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>Sender:       Orthodox Christianity <[log in to unmask]>
>Poster:       Bishop Tikhon <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      Re: OCA new age Church
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>At 08:26 PM 1/26/2002 -0500, Peter Andreev wrote:
> >The icon of God the Father and Dove is depicted at Holy Trinity Monastery
>in
> >Jordanville ,N.Y.
> >The then Bishop Lavre(now Metr.)was asked about it but nothing was done.
> >I agree, it should be taken out.
>
>I doubt very much that the Icon Mr. Andreev described shows the Father and
>Son seated side by side with the Dove flying in between.
>The question of depicting God the Father as an old man is NOT what I
>touched upon. I was referring to the direct depiction of the filioque
>heresy explicit in the icons showing Father and Son side by side with the
>Dove proceeding from Father AND Son.
>
>I bet the Icon at Jordanville (which provided Mister Andreev a probably
>welcome opportunity to slip in something against Metropolitan Laurus
>(Lavr)) is not what I described at all, but a depiction that clearly shows
>the dove proceeding from the breast of the Father Alone and the Son may be
>below Him.
>
>I could very well be that the appearance of Icons of this latter sort is in
>order to reply to the bad filioque icon in a way understandable to simple
>folk, for this type at Jordanville may have originated in the intention to
>oppose the icons  that I originally described, in a way understandable to
>the simple folk (rather than the geniuses on the List).
>Love,
>+Bishop Tikhon
>
>
>
> >Bishop Tikhon wrote:
> >   For example, it's amazing to me how often one comes
> > >across  those icons depicting God the Father as an old man seated next
>to
> > >God the Son as a young man, with the Holy Spirit depicted as a dove
>flying
> > >between them: a direct expression of the filioque heresy. Are there no
>such
> > >icons in, say, ROCOR? Has Mister Andreev written to the Bishop having
> > >jurisdiction over such parishes?
> > >
> >
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