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ORTHODOX  January 2002, Week 4

ORTHODOX January 2002, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Post Assisi Apostasy

From:

michael woerl <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Orthodox Christianity <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:14:06 -0800

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  This about says it all! I woonder if any of the
Church Abroad's 'pro dialogue with Moscow' clergy will
venture to comment on this little item, or ignore it
as they did the announcement that the MP would go to
Assisi? Perhaps they thought the MP would send
representatives, but that they would not actually do
or say anything. Heck, why let reality stand in  the
way of you rpre-conceived notions?!?!?!?
  Michael Woerl



--- John Lamberes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Subject:      Post Assisi Apostasy

> Please read carefully.
>
> [Russian Orthodox “Bishop” Hilarion attended the
> January 24 inter-
> religious  prayer service at Assisi, as a
> representative of the Moscow
> Patriarchate. After the ceremony, he spoke with
> Blandine Becheras of the
> Roman news agency I Media. The Orthodox prelate
> repeated the contentions
> often advanced by Moscow-- that ecumenical progress
> will be impossible
> until the Holy See curbs the Catholic "proselytism"
> in Russia, and the
> activities of Eastern-rite Catholics in Ukraine. The
> following is the text
> of the interview.]
>
> Q: All religions oppose terrorism. Patriarch Alexei
> sent you, with two
> others, to Assisi. So I presume that indicates the
> Russian Orthodox Church
> agrees with this initiative ?
> A: It is very important that all religions should be
> united to fight
> against terrorism, because you will always find
> people who will misuse
> religions and use it not for peace purposes but for
> wars or creating
> conflicts. So we must proclaim very clearly-- all of
> us, Christians and
> Muslims and Jews and representatives of other
> religions-- that wars,
> conflicts, violence, have nothing to do with
> religion. The heart of every
> relgion is a quest for peace.
>
> Q: Let us speak about relations between Moscow and
> Rome. Are they frozen or
> are they warming?
> A: Relations are not frozen, but they are difficult.
> And they are difficult
> precisely because there are people in Ukraine, who,
> in the name of
> religion, exercise violence. Until this is stopped--
> until our relations
> there are normalized-- there will be not peace
> between Catholics and
> Orthodox. This is why our relationship now is tense.
> But we are looking for
> a better future and we continue our conversations
> with the Roman catholic
> Church.
>
> Q: Cardinal Kasper will be in Moscow next month.
> Have you been talking with
> him about that trip?
> A: Yes, he will come to Moscow. We are looking for a
> breakthrough in our
> relationships, because we understand we cannot
> continue along with the same
> lines. We need constructive proposals from the
> Vatican, not just nice
> words.
>
> Q: We have heard reports that [Moscow's Catholic]
> Archbishop Kondrusiewic
> might organize a meeting in Moscow on the topic of
> proselytism. Would you
> attend such a meeting?
> A: I don't know what kind of meeting you mean. We
> are ready to negotiate.
>
> Q: Do you think unity between Catholics and Orthodox
> could help to bring
> peace
> in the world ?
> A: Definitely. We are the two traditional Christian
> religions. We must
> understand that there are many Christian confessions
> who have lost the
> sense of tradition and who do not preserve the
> inital faith of the
> Christian Church, who are influenced by liberal way
> of thinking. It is only
> the Orthodox and the Catholics who are able to
> preserve the traditional
> principles at theological, moral and other levels,
> including the level of
> spiritual life. This is why we need to be united as
> much as possible, and
> the fact that we are divided does a real harm to the
> Christian witness in
> the world.
>
> Q: So what would be, at this point, the next step
> toward unity between
> both?
> A: We must solve all the problems related to
> uniatism and proselytism.
>
> Q: Do you think a meeting between Patriarch Alexei
> and the Pope would help
> to
> foster unity?
> A: Yes, I definitely think that such a meeting would
> have a very historical
> significance because that would be the first meeting
> ever between the head
> of the Church of Rome and of the Church of Russia.
> But this meeting has to
> be prepared. It is not only to shake hands and to
> make beautiful pictures
> that the two heads of the church should meet each
> other. They have to
> prepare carefully their positions, in order that
> such a meeting would
> provide a breakthrough in our relationships.
>
> Q: Do we need a special bi-lateral commission to
> prepare for such a
> meeting ?
> A: We do not need to create any new commission
> because there are
> appropriate boards in each Church to negotiate. But
> we need to come to a
> better understanding of the situation. And from the
> Catholic side, we
> especially expect that they should bring
> constructive proposals not just
> beautiful and nice words about peace.  One thing is
> to speak about peace
> and another thing is to work for peace.
>
> Q: What kind of constructive proposals?
> A: I cannot go into the details of the situation,
> but everybody knows that
> it is not peaceful-- that a conflict still exists,
> that there are places
> where the Orthodox have no place to worship. And I
> don't think, until this
> is solved, any significant progress could be
> achieved in our relationship.


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