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ORTHODOX  July 2003, Week 1

ORTHODOX July 2003, Week 1

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Re: Toll Houses: dogma, a logic of damnation, and taking the implications seriously....................

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Fr Ambrose <[log in to unmask]>

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Orthodox Christianity <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:33:15 +1200

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His Grace Bishop Tikhon asked me to supply a definition of the toll house
teaching.  It seems appropriate to turn to turn to its proponents and their
definition.   Fr Seraphim Rose made much of the writings of Bp Ignaty
Brianchaninov in his own work on the toll houses.


The holy bishop writes in his "Homily on Death"  1863,  (Collected Works
(vol.3). St Petersburg):

    "When the soul of a Christian, leaving its earthly dwelling,  and begins
to strive through the aerial spaces towards the homeland on high, the demons
stop it, strive to find in it a kinship with themselves, their sinfulness,
their fall, and to drag it down to the hell prepared for the devil and his
angels (Matt. 25:41). They act thus by the right which the have acquired.

    "For the testing of souls as they pass through the spaces of the air
there have been established by the dark powers separate judgment places and
guards in a remarkable order. In the layers of the under-heaven, from earth
to heaven itself, stand guarding legions of fallen spirits. Each division is
in charge of a special form of sin and tests the soul in it when the soul
reaches this division. The aerial demonic guards and judgment places are
called in the patristic writing the toll-houses, and the spirits who serve
in them are called tax-collectors."

Does the above constitute a fair definition?   Is this a definition which
toll house believers would accept as Orthodox doctrine?  Is this what they
would like to be taught to the youth in church schools?

Saint Ignaty's definition raises a whole raft of questions.  Where, for
example, are we taught in Scripture that the fallen angels are assigned the
right to test and judge human souls?  It's a most strange concept, that they
should be entrusted with this work of (in)justice by the God Who Hinself
thrust them down onto Hell after their rebellion against Him.  Where are we
told that they have acquired this right?   And again, where are we told in
Scripture that the dark powers have been given a blessing by the Lord to
establish "separate judgement places and guards."  Who gave this right to
them?  Was it the Lord Jesus Christ?   There are assertions in Bishop
Ignaty's writing which need further investigation.

The holiness of Saint Ignaty Brianchaninov does not guarantee the truth of
this teaching in this matter.  In fact, we find that another great Russian
Saint, Theophan the Recluse, in "Souls and Angels are not Bodies but Spirits
" strongly rebukes Saint Ignaty and takes him to task for his doctrinal
errors.

We see the lack of consensus among contemporary Russian Saints, both of them
of theological stature and great holiness of life.   This brings the toll
house teaching back to the level of a private opinion.  Some may choose to
follow Saint Ignaty.  Some may choose instead to follow Saint Theophan.

Dear Bishop Tikhon,  is this an accurate depiction of the toll house
teaching?  If I have done any injustice to the teaching I hope that you will
correct my mistakes.

Fr Ambrose

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